Björn Brembs @brembs 1888 days ago

@segundojao @stat_PT @eLife To my knowledge, we are the only ones who have broken down the process into individual steps where one can just go and look the market rates up. The preprint is here: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g and we have just submitted a much shortened version to peer-review at @F1000Research.

Björn Brembs @brembs 1915 days ago

@Paul_hph @hhhw_schmidt Korrekt. In D sind es ungefähr 200m€ pro Jahr, unsere Uni ~2m€ Hier eine Übersicht über das was es tatsächlich kostet, verglichen mit dem was wir bezahlen: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Björn Brembs @brembs 1916 days ago

@Paul_hph @ashleydfarley Detailed description of the steps that are needed to publish a scholarly article here: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Björn Brembs @brembs 1917 days ago

@ptgmonteiro @tomashelikar Here are the current market rates for publishing services for anyone who wants to start a competitive publishing company: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g tl;dr: pay 500 for the service and sell the product for 9500 to the customer

Diego Forero MD, PhD @daforerog 1918 days ago

RT @brembs: @daforerog @MarkusElsner1 Indeed. See here for how much publishing actually costs if you wanted to start a publishing business…

Björn Brembs @brembs 1918 days ago

@daforerog @MarkusElsner1 Indeed. See here for how much publishing actually costs if you wanted to start a publishing business today: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g On average, about 55% of the total price is non-publishing costs. IOW, we pay more for non-publishing things than for publishing. Let that sink in.

Björn Brembs @brembs 1918 days ago

@MarkusElsner1 I've looked at it when it came out, of course. Looks like there are several levels at which they could cur costs without changing any of the service quality: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g Seems like EMBO is just not very good at what they do (or at least inefficient).

Dominika Borek @dmborek 1938 days ago

RT @brembs: @minisciencegirl Wait until you see what a tiny fraction of these prices the publishing costs are: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Nick @NickARJones 1938 days ago

RT @brembs: @andreasfahlman1 @agnes_karlson @FredrikJutfelt @BrianNosek @OSFramework @phylogenomics @dsquintana @jamesheathers @thePeerJ Wi…

Matthias Apfelthaler @m_apfelthaler 1938 days ago

RT @brembs: @andreasfahlman1 @agnes_karlson @FredrikJutfelt @BrianNosek @OSFramework @phylogenomics @dsquintana @jamesheathers @thePeerJ Wi…

Björn Brembs @brembs 1938 days ago

@andreasfahlman1 @agnes_karlson @FredrikJutfelt @BrianNosek @OSFramework @phylogenomics @dsquintana @jamesheathers @thePeerJ Wiley has a profit margin of 42%, most other publishers are pretty close. This is because their costs are minimal and their revenue obscene: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Satria A Kautsar @satriaphd 1938 days ago

RT @brembs: @minisciencegirl Wait until you see what a tiny fraction of these prices the publishing costs are: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Björn Brembs @brembs 1938 days ago

@minisciencegirl Wait until you see what a tiny fraction of these prices the publishing costs are: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Mareike König @Mareike2405 1952 days ago

RT @brembs: @SusanneGoettker Geht es hier um Kosten oder Preise? Kosten sind hier aufgelistet: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g Wer mehr braucht, m…

viola voß @v_i_o_l_a 1952 days ago

RT @brembs: @SusanneGoettker Geht es hier um Kosten oder Preise? Kosten sind hier aufgelistet: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g Wer mehr braucht, m…

Björn Brembs @brembs 1952 days ago

@SusanneGoettker Geht es hier um Kosten oder Preise? Kosten sind hier aufgelistet: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g Wer mehr braucht, macht es einfach falsch.

Björn Brembs @brembs 1954 days ago

@ravindra_pn @DanielBolnick It depends largely on the services you provide and the number articles you publish. You can use our spreadsheet to calculate, linked here: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g

Björn Brembs @brembs 1986 days ago

@j_colomb @MikeTaylor @carlmalamud @ashleydfarley @sennoma @RickyPo @PLOS @thePeerJ @ubiquitypress Also this is, of course, completely unwarranted waste. Here is what price pressure would do, i.e., when people's livelihoods would depend on their businesses to be competitive: https://t.co/GtzRD0CM5g In brief, anything more than ~500$/€ indicates a dysfunctional 'market'.

Agustin Zsögön @shogur 2013 days ago

The cost of scholarly publication https://t.co/RaNzYN1vSq via @PeerJPreprints

maxmaronna @maxmaronna 2016 days ago

@BrunaLab This system is so so broken...check this study about it https://t.co/EXtHe4sXJ9

R⓪ss Mounce @rmounce 2020 days ago

@maxmaronna Yes, I'd recommend this study: https://t.co/jN0UrhBA0o

jayoujin @innostudy 2052 days ago

RT @brembs: @saul Somebody should send these authors this figure on what the publishers are doing with all the money they get from us: Sou…

Javier Hernández @fhersanmi 2056 days ago

RT @brembs: @saul Somebody should send these authors this figure on what the publishers are doing with all the money they get from us: Sou…

@no identd @no_identd 2062 days ago

RT @brembs: @saul Somebody should send these authors this figure on what the publishers are doing with all the money they get from us: Sou…

@OpenBoiseState @openboisestate 2062 days ago

RT @brembs: @saul Somebody should send these authors this figure on what the publishers are doing with all the money they get from us: Sou…